hotkey bug in FrameMaker 10

Harmeet Singh. harmeesi at adobe.com
Mon Nov 21 20:51:39 PST 2011 

Hi,

This seems to be an as designed behavior of FrameMaker hotkeys. When you open a dialog by using a CTRL shortcut, the focus shifts from the document to the dialog. In this state, no other dialog can be invoked by a shortcut as the focus needs to be on the document for a shortcut to work.
What you can try is after bringing up the paragraph designer [CTRL + m], use [SHIFT + F7] and then use [CTRL+ d]. This should open both the pods.  

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Harmeet Singh
FrameMaker Engineering

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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 07:38:27 +0000
From: "Reng, Dr. Winfried" <wreng at tycoint.com>
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Subject: RE: hotkey bug in FrameMaker 10
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Hi Joseph,

I noticed this a while ago in FrameMaker 8.
This is not new.

Best regards

Winfried

From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lorenzini
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 5:42 PM
To: TCS-Users at googlegroups.com; FrameMaker Forum
Subject: hotkey bug in FrameMaker 10

Hi all,

I have the TCS 3.5. I was wondering if anyone else was seeing the following issue. To bring up the paragraph designer pod, one users the hotkey ctrl+m. To bring up the character designer pod, one uses the hotkey ctrl+d. I noticed that if i bring up the characer designer, then I can not use a hotkey to bring up the paragraph designer. The converse is true as well, where if i have brought up the paragraph designer then a hot key cannot bring up the character designer.

Anyone else seeing this?

Sincerely,
Joseph Lorenzini
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 07:40:54 -0800
From: "Owen, Clint" <Clint.Owen at craneaerospace.com>
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Joseph,
 
With FM10 and WinXP what you describe is true if you don't move the
curser. If you move the curser to a new location after opening the
Paragraph, Character, or Table designer you can open either of the
others with the keyboard shortcut. It seems to work in any order, but
you have to move the curser each time.
 
Clint

 

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Subject: hotkey bug in FrameMaker 10


Hi all,

I have the TCS 3.5. I was wondering if anyone else was seeing the
following issue. To bring up the paragraph designer pod, one users the
hotkey ctrl+m. To bring up the character designer pod, one uses the
hotkey ctrl+d. I noticed that if i bring up the characer designer, then
I can not use a hotkey to bring up the paragraph designer. The converse
is true as well, where if i have brought up the paragraph designer then
a hot key cannot bring up the character designer.

Anyone else seeing this?

Sincerely,
Joseph Lorenzini 


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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:14:14 -0800
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It also works for me by simply clicking back in the document (anywhere ... including at the place the cursor was to begin with!).

To me, this behavior is pretty "normal" ... meaning that once the paragraph (or character) designer pod comes up, the focus has changed and needs to be brought back to the document ... where the hotkeys are valid input.

Z

From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Owen, Clint
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 7:41 AM
To: FrameMaker Forum
Cc: TCS-Users at googlegroups.com; Joseph Lorenzini
Subject: RE: hotkey bug in FrameMaker 10

Joseph,

With FM10 and WinXP what you describe is true if you don't move the curser. If you move the curser to a new location after opening the Paragraph, Character, or Table designer you can open either of the others with the keyboard shortcut. It seems to work in any order, but you have to move the curser each time.

Clint

Clint Owen | Sr. Technical Writer | Crane Aerospace & Electronics | +1 425 743 8674 | Fax: +1 425 743 8113


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Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 8:42 AM
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Subject: hotkey bug in FrameMaker 10
Hi all,

I have the TCS 3.5. I was wondering if anyone else was seeing the following issue. To bring up the paragraph designer pod, one users the hotkey ctrl+m. To bring up the character designer pod, one uses the hotkey ctrl+d. I noticed that if i bring up the characer designer, then I can not use a hotkey to bring up the paragraph designer. The converse is true as well, where if i have brought up the paragraph designer then a hot key cannot bring up the character designer.

Anyone else seeing this?

Sincerely,
Joseph Lorenzini
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 11:46:05 -0500
From: Stuart Rogers <srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com>
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On 21/11/2011 11:14 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote:
> It also works for me by simply clicking back in the document (anywhere ?
> including at the place the cursor was to begin with!).
>
> To me, this behavior is pretty ?normal? ? meaning that once the
> paragraph (or character) designer pod comes up, the focus has changed
> and needs to be brought back to the document ? where the hotkeys are
> valid input.

It is standard behaviour; the same is true in FM 7 or Word, and most 
other programs.  It's just a little confusing in FM 9/10 because these 
pod-thingys don't look like regular dialog boxes.  But in most programs, 
when a dialog is open, shortcuts only work in the context of that dialog.

My thanks to the earlier poster who mentioned Shift + F7 to put the 
focus back in the document -- that means MANY fewer time-sucking 
mouse-clicks I'll have to use!

s.

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