Positioning Caption Under Run-in Figure

Ken Poshedly poshedly at bellsouth.net
Thu May 24 08:51:44 PDT 2012


Nancy,

We number our images as described earlier (a text box positioned below  the 
graphic with both the graphic and text box within an anchored  frame). 


In our case, our style is for the anchored frame is consistently 3.25  inches 
wide, variable height, right-aligned (on the right side of the  page), and 
anchored as "Run into Paragraph" with the text on the left  side of the page. 
Pretty standard.

The graphic image itself is consistently 2.75 inches wide of variable height 
(depending on the subject being portrayed).

NOTE: The reason for the slightly wider anchored graphic is to force the  text 
at the left side of the page to be no more than 3.75 inches wide.  Yeah, I know 
that the better way is to simply define that right-margin  in Format --> 
Paragraph --> Designer --> Basic, but even though  I prefer consistent page 
layout even if there is no graphic on the  right side, I lost that battle and 
sometimes we have full-page width  text, sometimes not. Some of you might recall 
my recent rants about my  recent battle to use running headers instead of simply 
the chapter name  in the chapter headers. This is a hell of a place.

ANYWAY . . . 

The graphic numbering itself is done using a text string we named  "Section 
Graphic Counter" located inside the small text box below the  graphic (but 
inside the anchored frame).

We found that one must be VERY detail-oriented with this stuff, because after 
having problems similar to yours (Nancy), we discovered the problem was in the 
syntax of the definition.

Specifically, using Format --> Paragraph --> Designer --> Numbering, the 
building blocks were

F:Fig. <$chapnum>-<n+>

Yet, we found that sometimes, for whatever reason, the building blocks on some 
counters were 


Fig. <$chapnum>-<n+> (note the missing "F:" preceding the word "Fig.")

Clicking on a correctly defined Section Graphic Counter, then choosing "Update 
All" took care of our numbering problems.

Our remaining problem is how to position the graphic counter box  consistently 
just-so; it's supposed to be flush left with the graphic  and just a teeny-tiny 
bot below the graphic (note the professional  distance description).

That's my take on it.

-- Kenpo in Atlanta






________________________________
From: Nancy Allison <maker at verizon.net>
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Thu, May 24, 2012 10:58:41 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Positioning Caption Under Run-in Figure

Thanks to everyone who has replied on the list or privately!

I discovered that I didn't have the problem I thought I had. I had another one.

If you are curious, read on. 


I  was adding x-refs into the text methodically, going from figure to  figure. 
When I went looking for Figure 2-8, it wasn't there in the  Cross-ref'erence 
drop-down list.. The list skipped from Figure 2-7 to  Figure 2-10. I assumed 
that it happened because I'd put the captions to  Figures 2-8 and 2-9 into the 
anchored frame and Frame had not "seen"  them.


I didn't scroll down further, because never in 20 years has FrameMaker listed 
the figure numbers out of order. 



But when I do scroll down in the listing in the Cross-Reference box, the list 
goes like this:


Figure 2-6
Figure 2-7 
Figure 2-10 
Figure 2-8 
Figure 2-9
Figure 2-9 
Figure 2-10 
Figure 2-8 
Figure 2-11
Figure 2-12


and on normally.


Now  I am hunting through the file using Find -- Paragraph Tag "Caption" to  see 
what it turns up. Maybe I've buried figure tags behind anchored  frames or some 
such bizarre thing. This problem is definitely related to  my use of Run-in 
anchored frames, which I've never used before . . .  but I think I did something 
strange, not FrameMaker!


--Nancy

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________________________________
From: Nancy Allison <maker at verizon.net>
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Thu, May 24, 2012 10:58:41 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Positioning Caption Under Run-in Figure

Thanks to everyone who has replied on the list or privately!

I discovered that I didn't have the problem I thought I had. I had another one.

If you are curious, read on. 


I was adding x-refs into the text methodically, going from figure to figure. 
When I went looking for Figure 2-8, it wasn't there in the Cross-ref'erence 
drop-down list.. The list skipped from Figure 2-7 to Figure 2-10. I assumed that 
it happened because I'd put the captions to Figures 2-8 and 2-9 into the 
anchored frame and Frame had not "seen" them.


I didn't scroll down further, because never in 20 years has FrameMaker listed 
the figure numbers out of order. 



But when I do scroll down in the listing in the Cross-Reference box, the list 
goes like this:


Figure 2-6
Figure 2-7 
Figure 2-10 
Figure 2-8 
Figure 2-9
Figure 2-9 
Figure 2-10 
Figure 2-8 
Figure 2-11
Figure 2-12


and on normally.


Now I am hunting through the file using Find -- Paragraph Tag "Caption" to see 
what it turns up. Maybe I've buried figure tags behind anchored frames or some 
such bizarre thing. This problem is definitely related to my use of Run-in 
anchored frames, which I've never used before . . . but I think I did something 
strange, not FrameMaker!


--Nancy
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