OT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!: Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

[Fred Ridder]

But Matt's has two points that I think are completely valid.

1) The licensing model for Creative Suite does not apply to FrameMaker (yet?) so the discussion is either moot or off-topic for this list (or both).

2) Nothing new is being said. All of the posters on this topic are simply restating what they have said several times before. We get it. You don't like the pay-as-you-go licensing model and won't buy into it if and when FrameMaker converts to that kind of plan, so at some point after that you'll stop using FrameMaker for anything. 

I'm sure Adobe is aware that they will lose some percentage of their users if they convert their licensing model, but I'm sure they also believe that they will *gain* some new users who will be happy to license their products for a few months to see whether they work well for their purposes at a cost of a couple hundred dollars rather than having to fork out a kilobuck or more up-front. 

-Fred Ridder

> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:14:40 -0700
> From: generic668 at yahoo.ca
> Subject: Re: OT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!: Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)
> To: matt at mattrsullivan.com; Syed.Hosain at aeris.net; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> 
> And on the other side of the fence...
> 
> I find it an interesting discussion. And I prefer to have it on this list since I don't participate in many other lists.
> 
> Sorry, Matt, my vote is for keep it online.
> 
> Nadine
> 
> >
> >Bandwidth is measured also by the number of emails one can reasonably read (and respond to) in a given length of time.
> >
> >
> >I can't be the only person who is tired of reading about reactions to the CS licensing model on this FrameMaker forum…
> >
> >
> >I don't know anything about Adobe's plans.
> >
> >
> >Everyone's time is worth (and costs) something…the time required to participate and/or read these discussions thus have a cost, so I'm asking... perhaps those with a keen interest in the topic could take the discussion of it offline or to a CS-oriented list until Adobe indicates this will affect FrameMaker? 
> >
> >
> >I'm happy to discuss this off-list, but as a courtesy, will be avoiding this thread (even more) going forward.
> >
> >
> >-Matt
> >
> >
> >
> >On Jul 17, 2013, at 11:49 PM, "Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)" <Syed.Hosain at aeris.net> wrote:
> >
> >In this day and age, is Internet “bandwidth” use for text e-mails really an issue? J
> >> 
> >>Plus, are you saying that you know/believe that FrameMaker is not going to be released as a cloud-based license model soon? Love to hear the news.
> >> 
> >>And, in my opinion, btw, my discussion (feel free to call it whining perhaps? :)) on license cost/models of FrameMaker is fair game for this mailing list …
> >> 
> >>Z
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