A Pantone colour definition question

[Davis, David]

Garima,
when I do File > Save as PDF in FrameMaker11, I first get a dialog to choose file name and destination, then I get a "PDF Setup for Selected File" dialog.
The first tab of this is labelled "Settings" and has a panel on it with just two radio buttons, only labelled "RGB" and "CMYK", no explanation.
Is this what you mean by "Uncheck the option for 'Convert CMYK colors to RGB'" ?


Regards,

David


From: Garima Kamthan [mailto:gkamthan at adobe.com]
Sent: 31 July 2013 11:14
To: Richard Doll
Cc: deb.altman at anixter.com; info at mikewickham.com; Davis, David; Kunal Saini; Vikram Verma; Kapil Verma
Subject: RE: A Pantone colour definition question

Hi Richard,

To retain CMYK colors in PDF, you can do the following:


1.       Modify a job option to change color setting to 'leave color unchanged'. Steps are:

Select: File->print setup. The printer selected should be 'Adobe PDF'.

Click on properties. click 'Edit' for any job option(which is to be used to generate PDF) in Default settings. Go to 'color' tab. In 'color management policies' change option to "Leave color unchanged.

2.       Do 'Save as PDF':

In PDF job options, select the job option created in step1

Uncheck the option for 'Convert CMYK colors to RGB'

Would suggest you to use the above settings for getting CMYK colors in PDF.
In case you are just interested in retaining CMYK colors for 'TIF' images, then you can use the flag 'ConvertGraphicsToEPS'.
Open maker.ini file present in $FmHome directory. Mark "ConvertGraphicsToEPS" as On. Restart Framemaker. Now, even if "Convert CMYK colors to RGB" option is checked in PDF set dialog, graphics(jpeg, psd, tiff) will retain CMYK colors.

Hope this helps.
Regards,
Garima

From: Kapil Verma
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 11:24 AM
To: Richard Doll; Garima Kamthan
Cc: deb.altman at anixter.com<mailto:deb.altman at anixter.com>; info at mikewickham.com<mailto:info at mikewickham.com>; Davis, David; Kunal Saini; Vikram Verma
Subject: RE: A Pantone colour definition question

Richard,

Thanks for your note. My colleague Garima will get back to you on this question.

Thanks,

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From: Richard Doll [mailto:sgmlindy at tds.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:33 PM
To: Kapil Verma
Cc: deb.altman at anixter.com<mailto:deb.altman at anixter.com>; info at mikewickham.com<mailto:info at mikewickham.com>; Davis, David
Subject: Re: A Pantone colour definition question
Importance: High

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Kapil Verma
Sr. Product Manager - Adobe Technical Communications Products
O: +91-120-2444711 x 34505
Technical Communication Suite I FrameMaker I RoboHelp I FrameMaker Publishing Server I RoboHelp Server
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Kapil,

As a FrameMaker-10 (structured) and Acrobat-Pro-10 of the TCS-package user,
compiling 3k catalog pages/yr having approx. 3.25 CMYK-defined images per page and
about 20 CMYK-defined in FrameMaker colors (as a company-standards for part-numbers/section bleed-tabs/etc.) . . .

Images are provided as PDF-(for full-page) and TIF (for single-column) all having colors defined in CMYK.

Please define exactly WHAT options are required to guarantee rendering the exact CMYK of the "input" and
HOW/WHERE in FrameMaker and/or Acrobat-Pro to set them.

at your decision . . . reference to product "help" or "how-to" data at Adobe web-site is appreciated.

In earlier Frame/Acrobat versions, I had script-converted all TIFs to EPS via Photoshop, to prevent Windows of its RGB perversion.

Thanks for your valued response.

Richard Doll
graphic communications llc
sgmlindy at tds.net<mailto:sgmlindy at tds.net>
1-317-539-4857
frame user since ver. 4

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Wickham<mailto:info at mikewickham.com>
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: A Pantone colour definition question

If you include the graphic as an EPS file, it gets passed around the Windows GDI. So Windows won't RGBify it and will leave CMYK and Pantone intact.

Mike Wickham
On 7/29/2013 6:32 AM, Davis, David wrote:

(Mind you, if I specify it as a CMYK, it's almost certainly going to RGB-ify it? Or has Frame11 stopped all that nonsense? I've read much wailing and gnashing of teeth about this online....)
Regards,

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