SOLVED! Was RE: Changing conditional text settings crashes Frame

[Reng, Dr. Winfried]

Hi Anita,

Thank you very much for this description. I also encounter
this crash now and then. Next time I will test your solution.

You say that FrameMaker did not know how to interpret
an end of flow symbol in a hidden cell. However, if I do not
apply any condition to text in table rows which are hidden,
then I _always_ have this end of flow symbol.

When I send FrameMaker files to translation, translation memory
systems import and present text in hidden table rows. Therefore
I apply a condition not only to a table row but also to the text in
the table row.

Best regards

Winfried

From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Gutierrez, Anita
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 7:28 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: SOLVED! Was RE: Changing conditional text settings crashes Frame

Thanks to everyone who jumped in to help.  Besides fixing my file, I learned a ton!

The problem turned out to be caused by a table whose conditional text settings were “funny” (Gary’s word). Meaning:

• The table anchor was unconditional.
• Several table rows had a condition applied.
• Some text inside conditional table cells also had the same condition as the row applied.  However, the end-of-flow symbols in some of these dual-condition cells were unconditional.  (Don’t ask why I set the table up this way.  It made sense at the time.)

It seems that Frame didn’t know what to do with an end-of-cell symbol that has no cell in which to live—as happened when I hid the condition. That’s actually kind of reasonable, although Frame could handle it more gracefully than crashing.  (Apparently this has been a known bug at least since version 7.  Adobe folks?)

When I cleaned up the table to use conditions only on text (not table rows or cells), everything worked fine.

Also, thanks to Stuart for pointing me to the MIF Reference. The MIF equivalent of “don’t Show Condition Indicators” is this line in the Document statement.
<DDisplayOverrides No>
Not the most intuitive term for it, but there you have it.

Thanks all!
Anita



From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com]
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 11:19 AM
To: Gutierrez, Anita; framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: Changing conditional text settings crashes Frame

On 2014-Jan-13 1:24 PM, Gutierrez, Anita wrote:
Hi Framers,

(Anyone know the MIF equivalent of “don’t Show Condition Indicators”?  I searched for “cond” and “condition” and didn’t find anything recognizable as such.)



Search for "indicators" in: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/9.0/MIF_Reference/MIF_Reference.pdf

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