[Framers] Para tag "As Is" property?

Robert Lauriston robert at lauriston.com
Mon Jun 12 15:10:08 PDT 2017


I don't think Adobe ever implemented document-level paragraph property defaults.

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 2:48 PM, Scott Prentice <sp14 at leximation.com> wrote:
> The FDK Reference shows that document object have the following "type-in"
> properties. In theory, these are all set in each document and could be the
> document defaults to be inherited by para tags.
>
> FP_Capitalization IntT Type of capitalization
> FP_ChangeBar IntT True if Change Bars are enabled.
> FP_CharTag StringT Name of character format tag.
> FP_Color F_ObjHandleT Spot color (FO_Color ID).
> FP_CondFmtIsShown IntT True if condition is shown.
> FP_CombinedFontFamily F_ObjHandleT Combined font definition
> (FO_CombinedFontDefn)
> FP_FontEncodingName† StringT The font’s encoding
> FP_FontAngle IntT Font angle
> FP_FontFamily IntT Font family
> FP_FontPlatformName StringT Name that uniquely identifies a font on a
> specific platform
> FP_FontPostScriptName StringT Name given to a font when it is sent to a
> PostScript printer
> FP_FontSize MetricT Font size (2 pt to 400 pt).
> FP_FontVariation IntT Font variation
> FP_FontWeight IntT Font weight
> FP_InCond F_IntsT Condition tags that apply to the text
> FP_KernX MetricT Horizontal kern value for manual kerning
> FP_KernY MetricT Vertical kern value for manual kerning
> FP_Overline IntT True if Overline style is enabled.
> FP_PairKern IntT True if Pair Kern is enabled.
> FP_Position IntT Text position relative to baseline of text
> FP_SepOverride F_ObjHandleT Custom color separation override
> FP_Spread MetricT Obsolete property, but still functional.
> FP_Stretch MetricT Character stretch (set width) expressed as a percentage
> of normal stretch for the font
> FP_Strikethrough IntT True if Strikethrough style is enabled.
> FP_StyleOverrides† IntT Style condition indicators for conditional text
> FP_Tracking MetricT Character tracking expressed as a percentage of an em
> FP_Underlining IntT Type of underlining
> FP_UseSepOverride IntT True if FP_SepOverride overrides default.
>
>
>
> On 6/12/17 2:29 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:
>>
>> What underlying properties?
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Scott Prentice <sp14 at leximation.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Alan. I hadn't thought of using the para designer to apply
>>> properties
>>> to multiple tags. That does explain the possible use of AsIs in that
>>> context. Sure would be cool to be able to assign that to the tag itself
>>> and
>>> inherit from the underlying "document" properties!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> ...scott
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/12/17 2:10 PM, Alan Houser wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>
>>>> The paragraph designer "as-is" properties are useful for changing
>>>> properties on multiple paragraph formats. You can change a property (or
>>>> properties) on multiple paragraph formats at once, while leaving all
>>>> other
>>>> properties unchanged.
>>>>
>>>> Alas, however, if you select a single paragraph, set the paragraph
>>>> designer to "as-is", change any property, and apply the change, all
>>>> paragraph properties in the designer revert to the settings of the
>>>> selected
>>>> paragraph.
>>>>
>>>> -Alan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/12/17 4:34 PM, Scott Prentice wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi...
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as I can tell, there's no way to assign "As Is" to a para tag
>>>>> property definition. You can do it for char tags (and conditions), but
>>>>> even
>>>>> though "As Is" is a valid option in many of the para tag properties,
>>>>> there's
>>>>> no way to actually assign this value. Yes?
>>>>>
>>>>> I've seen this value in the para tag properties for as long as I can
>>>>> remember, and didn't think much of it, but I'm wondering why these
>>>>> values
>>>>> exist in the para tag property lists, if they can't be used or set.
>>>>>
>>>>> *If* there was some way to define an underlying "document" property for
>>>>> items like font or color, then it would make sense for a para tag to
>>>>> have an
>>>>> "As Is" value so it would inherit from the document defaults. In fact,
>>>>> there
>>>>> are such document properties, but the only way I know of to change them
>>>>> is
>>>>> to do it via the FDK or MIF (??). So, in theory, para tags could make
>>>>> use of
>>>>> an As Is value .. but I don't think you can set this value.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm hoping that I've just missed this feature after all these years ..
>>>>> can someone explain why and how?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> ...scott
>>>>>
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