[Framers] Para tag "As Is" property?

Scott Prentice sp14 at leximation.com
Mon Jun 12 16:42:48 PDT 2017


Thanks. That was my understanding, but wanted to confirm that I wasn't 
missing something.

...scott


On 6/12/17 3:10 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:
> I don't think Adobe ever implemented document-level paragraph property defaults.
>
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 2:48 PM, Scott Prentice wrote:
>> The FDK Reference shows that document object have the following "type-in"
>> properties. In theory, these are all set in each document and could be the
>> document defaults to be inherited by para tags.
>>
>> FP_Capitalization IntT Type of capitalization
>> FP_ChangeBar IntT True if Change Bars are enabled.
>> FP_CharTag StringT Name of character format tag.
>> FP_Color F_ObjHandleT Spot color (FO_Color ID).
>> FP_CondFmtIsShown IntT True if condition is shown.
>> FP_CombinedFontFamily F_ObjHandleT Combined font definition
>> (FO_CombinedFontDefn)
>> FP_FontEncodingName† StringT The font’s encoding
>> FP_FontAngle IntT Font angle
>> FP_FontFamily IntT Font family
>> FP_FontPlatformName StringT Name that uniquely identifies a font on a
>> specific platform
>> FP_FontPostScriptName StringT Name given to a font when it is sent to a
>> PostScript printer
>> FP_FontSize MetricT Font size (2 pt to 400 pt).
>> FP_FontVariation IntT Font variation
>> FP_FontWeight IntT Font weight
>> FP_InCond F_IntsT Condition tags that apply to the text
>> FP_KernX MetricT Horizontal kern value for manual kerning
>> FP_KernY MetricT Vertical kern value for manual kerning
>> FP_Overline IntT True if Overline style is enabled.
>> FP_PairKern IntT True if Pair Kern is enabled.
>> FP_Position IntT Text position relative to baseline of text
>> FP_SepOverride F_ObjHandleT Custom color separation override
>> FP_Spread MetricT Obsolete property, but still functional.
>> FP_Stretch MetricT Character stretch (set width) expressed as a percentage
>> of normal stretch for the font
>> FP_Strikethrough IntT True if Strikethrough style is enabled.
>> FP_StyleOverrides† IntT Style condition indicators for conditional text
>> FP_Tracking MetricT Character tracking expressed as a percentage of an em
>> FP_Underlining IntT Type of underlining
>> FP_UseSepOverride IntT True if FP_SepOverride overrides default.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/12/17 2:29 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:
>>> What underlying properties?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Scott Prentice
>>> wrote:
>>>> Thanks Alan. I hadn't thought of using the para designer to apply
>>>> properties
>>>> to multiple tags. That does explain the possible use of AsIs in that
>>>> context. Sure would be cool to be able to assign that to the tag itself
>>>> and
>>>> inherit from the underlying "document" properties!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> ...scott
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/12/17 2:10 PM, Alan Houser wrote:
>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>
>>>>> The paragraph designer "as-is" properties are useful for changing
>>>>> properties on multiple paragraph formats. You can change a property (or
>>>>> properties) on multiple paragraph formats at once, while leaving all
>>>>> other
>>>>> properties unchanged.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alas, however, if you select a single paragraph, set the paragraph
>>>>> designer to "as-is", change any property, and apply the change, all
>>>>> paragraph properties in the designer revert to the settings of the
>>>>> selected
>>>>> paragraph.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Alan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/12/17 4:34 PM, Scott Prentice wrote:
>>>>>> Hi...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as I can tell, there's no way to assign "As Is" to a para tag
>>>>>> property definition. You can do it for char tags (and conditions), but
>>>>>> even
>>>>>> though "As Is" is a valid option in many of the para tag properties,
>>>>>> there's
>>>>>> no way to actually assign this value. Yes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've seen this value in the para tag properties for as long as I can
>>>>>> remember, and didn't think much of it, but I'm wondering why these
>>>>>> values
>>>>>> exist in the para tag property lists, if they can't be used or set.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *If* there was some way to define an underlying "document" property for
>>>>>> items like font or color, then it would make sense for a para tag to
>>>>>> have an
>>>>>> "As Is" value so it would inherit from the document defaults. In fact,
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> are such document properties, but the only way I know of to change them
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> to do it via the FDK or MIF (??). So, in theory, para tags could make
>>>>>> use of
>>>>>> an As Is value .. but I don't think you can set this value.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm hoping that I've just missed this feature after all these years ..
>>>>>> can someone explain why and how?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> ...scott
>>>>>>
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