[Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output

Peter Gold peter at petergold.photography
Sat Sep 12 10:31:27 PDT 2020


Hi, Lin:

AHA! It's a secret plot of some kind. I remember there was a time long ago,
when FM's auto-correct would replace "InterLeaf" or some other proprietary
competitor, with "FrameMaker."

The word-spacing computation might have a rounding error when it encounters
specific glyph combinations in this particular font. Perhaps substitute a
similar font for the problematic word(s) or adjust the kerning or
letter-spacing, perhaps by applying a character format that sets one or the
other or both properties.

HTH


On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 11:58 AM Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com> wrote:

> Peter
> >
> > Seriously, I'm sure you have tried changing the source, say, with a
> > different word, or if it's a text variable try plain text, or is a
> > character tag applied, or if it's a corporate-name font, swap it, etc. Is
> > the font customized to apply special kerning or spacing to specific glyph
> > pairs?
>
>
> The word "Pulse" is a text variable in the source, but once it gets to the
> TOC it's plain text. I did try changing it in the source to text. The
> pictures you see are the "after" of that try.
>
> The font is Source Sans Pro. The TOC paragraph tag does have word spacing
> adjusted to ensure that I don't have text abutting the page number
> (standard workaround, minimum 190%, maximum 210%, optimum 100%), but since
> all the other tags have the exact same settings, why would those two, and
> only those two, convert from FM to PDF so weirdly? I don't touch the letter
> spacing or stretch settings on the font tab. There are no character tags
> applied in either the source file or the generated TOC.
>
> Doug
>
> > For instance, insert Pulse Software before the word "Pulse", and PDF it
> > again.  Observe the results.
>
>
> No joy on this. There appears to be something about the actual word
> "Software" that the PDF engine is having a conniption about. The original
> text has Software oddly space, and the inserted text right before it also
> has "Software oddly spaced. In fact, the "e" from "Software" is overlapping
> the "P" of the original "Pulse".
>
> Maybe it's time to reinstall Acrobat. Again. I have constant problems with
> this program. Multiple Fatal DDE Errors, an inability to open PDFs by
> double-clicking on them from File Explorer or the download bar at the
> bottom of a browser, and on and on. An Adobe tech completely wiped every
> Adobe program and reinstalled them, and I've even had my machine completely
> reimaged and the problems continue.
>
> On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 8:47 AM Doug <dbailey4117 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Experiment by making changes to the source.
> >
> > For instance, insert Pulse Software before the word "Pulse", and PDF it
> > again.  Observe the results.  If the new words display fine, delete
> > everything after them and PDF it again.  Observe the results.
> >
> > You might be able to fix it, even if you might never discover why.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 5:50 PM Peter Gold <peter at petergold.photography>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It's a no-brainer, Lin! It's "social distancing. :)
> > >
> > > Seriously, I'm sure you have tried changing the source, say, with a
> > > different word, or if it's a text variable try plain text, or is a
> > > character tag applied, or if it's a corporate-name font, swap it, etc.
> Is
> > > the font customized to apply special kerning or spacing to specific
> glyph
> > > pairs?
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020, 3:46 PM Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > This is only happening with 2 entries in the entire TOC. In the TOC,
> > they
> > > > look identical to all the other entries in the TOC. I've checked the
> > > > paragraph tags in both the original files and the TOC files and they
> > are
> > > > the same. But in the PDF created from that TOC, the text for those
> two
> > > > headings is weirdly spaced for the word Software.
> > > >
> > > > I've posted this to the Adobe FrameMaker forum, with pictures. If
> > anyone
> > > > has an idea, I'd appreciate it. It's a little thing, but it looks
> bad.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://community.adobe.com/t5/framemaker/weird-spacing-in-toc-after-conversion-to-pdf/td-p/11427776?page=1
> > > >
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